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Post by Diggy Diesel J Jim Bomb Lynch on Jun 1, 2015 20:54:29 GMT
Yeah, this is probably between Liz or Abi for me.
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Post by So Kim on Jun 1, 2015 20:56:48 GMT
The only way Aras gets my vote is if he owns up to being an asshole, which he probably won't.
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Jun 1, 2015 21:03:38 GMT
Like I said in my plea, Aras is the equivalent to Russell Hantz for me, in the game at least.
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Post by kt on Jun 1, 2015 23:20:55 GMT
why would I be biased when I'm the one who should be the most bitter towards Aras of all of us? I honestly just think he played the best game of the three people left. of course it's OK for others to disagree. I never said it wasn't. :SSSSS and Joe, to say I had a terrible social game just because I didn't talk to you in particular is kind of narcissistic lol. I guess that means your social game was terrible too since you didn't make any effort to talk to me either
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Post by Diggy Diesel J Jim Bomb Lynch on Jun 2, 2015 5:04:29 GMT
Aras lost my vote. He's done.
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Jun 2, 2015 5:47:43 GMT
I personally love the effort Liz is putting into this. Bravo girl!
Right now i'm voting for Abi.
Aras didn't realize that if he wanted my vote, he needed to do what I said.
If he wants any shot at it, he better wow me with his compliments.
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Jun 2, 2015 5:55:55 GMT
Also I do agree wit Abi, she had to fight more to actually make it here. It was sort of handed to Abi and Aras on a silver platter.
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Post by kt on Jun 2, 2015 10:38:44 GMT
Abi didn't fight for shit lol and to say otherwise is objective ignorance of the facts. She was in danger maybe twice the whole game and it certainly wasn't because she was a strategic or social mastermind who manipulated things in her favour. The first time she was a target she got rescued by the swap and you sorting the tribes in her favour, and the second time she was only targeted by half the remaining players over Joe because Joe had supposedly offered Laura & Liz a final 3 deal and so they wanted to keep him (and even then, she was hardly in danger, because no-one was going to rocks for Joe. Again, she was saved by other people). I honestly do like her as a person, but as far as the game goes she is an inarticulate, insincere floater who exerted no control whatsoever in the game even when she could have, and her FTC answers so far are even worse than I imagined they would be. I mean, vote for Abi if you want, y'all do you, but don't pretend it's because any part of her game was superior to those of the people sitting next to her (or over half of the people on this jury, for that matter). At least own up to the fact that it's a vote against the other two, whether it be because you're feeling spiteful, your ego is bruised, or because you genuinely dislike them/something about their games.
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Post by kt on Jun 2, 2015 10:41:42 GMT
Like I don't think you even know what you're saying when you say that Abi had to fight and Aras/Liz had things handed to them. Abi was in an ostensibly crappy position the whole game because her social game was hugely lacking. She didn't have the ability to connect with the right people and form sincere relationships when she needed to, and so she was almost constantly an outsider. Aras and Liz forged bonds with others that carried them through the game. That isn't having things handed to them at all. That's playing an effective social game.
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Post by So Kim on Jun 2, 2015 11:03:43 GMT
Abi is making it really hard for me to vote for her. She had given like three different answers to the question of what moves she made. For now I think I'm leaning towards Aras, but Liz isn't looking like a bad option tbh.
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Post by Joe on Jun 2, 2015 12:50:41 GMT
Katie I did make an effort to talk to you. You legitimately ignored me..... Your social game was really bad, you game off super obnoxious and rude.
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Post by Joe on Jun 2, 2015 13:01:05 GMT
I agree with a lot of you it's like a battle of who can be worse in this FTC between abi and aras and Liz is just there doing a good job and watching them fail. Kinda like her role in the game, just watching everyone else crumble
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Post by Natalie Tenerelli on Jun 2, 2015 14:57:42 GMT
Abi had to fight more than the other three, that's a known fact. Aras and Liz literally had a big ass alliance going into the merge, since Aras was with the old Ossa members. Abi was supposed to be gone at premerge, and look where she is now, Final 3.
Regardless of how she got there, she is there.
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Post by kt on Jun 2, 2015 23:43:14 GMT
Katie I did make an effort to talk to you. You legitimately ignored me..... Your social game was really bad, you game off super obnoxious and rude. OK except I'm checking my AIM logs now and I don't have a single message from you ever except for that one time we had a brief conversation on the 8th May (which I started, for the record), so that's odd. I'm sorry you thought I came off super obnoxious and rude because I really don't think I was either of those things. It's actually kind of ironic since you were part of the group that went nuts at me in the cast chat after Parv got blindsided... now THAT'S obnoxious. It's chill though, think what you like
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Post by kt on Jun 2, 2015 23:47:53 GMT
Abi had to fight more than the other three, that's a known fact. Aras and Liz literally had a big ass alliance going into the merge, since Aras was with the old Ossa members. Abi was supposed to be gone at premerge, and look where she is now, Final 3. Regardless of how she got there, she is there. yes, regardless of how she got there, she is there, but I think this sums it up pretty nicely: One could say that we were comfortable as a positive result of our own moves, where as you were not in control of your own destiny. Sympathy for poorly aligning yourself shouldn't make you more deserving
the fact that Abi didn't have a "big ass alliance" going into the merge was a result of her own poor play. to say this means she had to "fight harder" is kind of redundant. she was isolated because of her own gameplay, not because everyone else was mean and wanted to make it hard for her.
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