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Post by So Kim on Jun 1, 2015 22:39:10 GMT
Hey ladies and gentleman, congratulations to all three of you. So before I start this, I just want to say that I feel like all three of you played at least decent strategic games, but your social games is where you lacked. I'm gonna try to be as nice as possible, but I can't promise you anything. My vote is really up in the air (yes Liz, you also have a chance) so don't blow it. PS - Shoutout to Natalie for helping me choose the title of the thread ArasAras, you claim that you were in control throughout all the game, which is kinda true, but to me it seems like Katie played you big time and you didn't even realized it. Why wasn't Katie the one to flip to our side instead of you flipping to theirs? During that round you alienated a lot of the jurors and potentially lost a couple of votes, while Katie was just sitting pretty not pissing off anyone. It seems like you were just playing for her to win, obviously until you voted her out, but the damage was already done. One thing you did that really pissed me off was when, after you flipped on us and voted Parvati and Natalie out, you said to us "Admit it, it was really funny guys". Like who the fuck says that after you screw someone over, and then you're asking us to vote for you? One thing I do appreciate about you though was when you told me both rounds I left that I was the target. It takes a lot of balls doing that, something other people I will mention later on did not do. Apart from loyalty, one of the things I respect the most on this games is honesty. So my questions for you are: 1. How the hell did you make it to round 37 on your first try and the Final Immunity Challenge? I had to do that shit like 5 times because I kept screwing up. Ok you don't have to answer this one. 2. Did you really think you could just rely on your strategic game and not worry about how you were perceived? Because that's exactly what you did. LizNot gonna lie, I'm so pissed off that you made it here over pretty much all the jurors. Half the times I even forgot you existed because you never talked to anyone of us. Every time I tried talking to you you would respond with "Yeah" or "Definitely". I don't know if part of your strategy was to be a non-entity throughout the whole game, but if it was then congrats because it worked. I don't have any particular questions for you, me voting for you depends on how well Abi and Aras respond to my questions. Abi-MariaOh Abi, you have no idea how disappointed I'm at you. After Parvati and Natalie got voted out, I considered you not only my closest ally, but my closest friend in this game. I respect the move you made against me because, let's be honest, I had a pretty good chance of winning if I made it here (*flips hair*). What really upsets me is that you decided to ignore me throughout the whole day when I knew you were online checking the boards and liking posts. If you would have came clean to me and told me you were voting for me I would have voted for you a 100%. You could have even write me a PM or something, but no. Aside from all of that, I don't think you played that strong of a game. Most of the times I was playing not just for myself, but for you too. If it wasn't for me flipping to your side on the round Joe got the boot, you wouldn't even be sititing here. I could have potentially went all the way to the end with them and be sitting here, but I chose you instead (something I really regret). Also, during the round Laura went, I was the one that came up with the plan to vote for Liz thinking she was voting for Aras, and you just followed suit. You haven't lost my vote, but I want you to own up to your game. If you don't, then I won't be voting for you. My questions for you are: 1. When did you decide to turn on me? 2. Tell me of a move you made that you were solely responsible for (if you have one)? 3. Compare yourself to a character of the Bible. If your answer isn't Judas you lose my vote (in this analogy I'm supposed to be Jesus Christ btw). Everyone1. Rank the jurors and the three of you sitting here from best player to worst and give an explanation on each. 2. Would you have done something different if you had the chance to play again? 3. Tell me why you deserve the title of Sole Survivor over the two sitting next to you? 4. Why is So Kim better than you at every aspect of the game? This one is the most important. Ok, I'm out
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Post by kt on Jun 1, 2015 23:14:48 GMT
fk you stole my first question
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Post by So Kim on Jun 1, 2015 23:34:11 GMT
fk you stole my first question Sucks for you
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Post by Aras Baskauskas on Jun 2, 2015 0:33:28 GMT
That quote of "it was funny guys" is taken out of context. Our alliance group chat was named the outsiders. "Yeah I don't wanna lead you guys on. I think I'm an insider now" Calling myself an insider was a humorous statement loosely related to the name of the group chat I posted it in. Directly after that statement I said "Don't lie, it was funny" referring to my not so funny joke.
When I got out of class I was going to ask Natalie what she meant about laughing once she was gone. I hope this clears that up. I honestly wouldn't do something like that, you saw how respectful I tried to be when you knew you were going home and after as well. But now based on this example I can see a little bit where the perception of me strayed from the reality. More to come later. Just wanted to say that real quick, you guys can check the group chat if you want.
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Post by So Kim on Jun 2, 2015 0:53:26 GMT
I just checked the group chat and you're right.
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Post by Aras Baskauskas on Jun 2, 2015 0:57:56 GMT
Haha that's ok. That was probably poorly timed and executed and it was really really easy to read that out of context in the heat of the moment. I hope looking back we can all look at it and realize the true intention as opposed to using it as fuel to my over the top villainous perception.
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Post by Aras Baskauskas on Jun 2, 2015 3:46:34 GMT
Why wasn't Katie the one to flip to our side instead of you flipping to theirs?
We all know our alliance would've never accepted Katie. The cult propaganda completely ruled out working both sides of aisle during this game. It's a hard flip or nothing. You do bring up a good point in using Katie in the future to take out one of us but that just wouldn't be possible. The pecking order was Jim, Katie, Laura, Liz. MAYBE I could convince you guys Laura over Katie but Katie's immunity wins probably would kill my case. So let's just say Parvati goes either way. We're at 6-4: Jim goes, Laura goes and it's 5-2. I've screwed myself out of the potential numbers. It was a "now or never" thing. I either had to tell Katie good bye or flip to them. I knew I could recover relationships with at least 2 of you (which I did), I didn't think I could somehow work myself between you 4 girls. And even if I did it'd probably be Parvati or you "sheeping" me and someone else to the end in the eyes of the jury. 2. Did you really think you could just rely on your strategic game and not worry about how you were perceived? Because that's exactly what you did.I assume this question is referring to my demeanor here at FTC, if not then could you just re-phrase it please and I'll answer that haha. Of course I worry and try to affect how I'm perceived. How was I perceived by the Lomand girls? You and Parvati were wary of me since round 3, I'm probably gone first chance you get. The rest of Lomand after that vote? I became the "rah rah Lomand" guy and was the guy to essentially point you guys out at scapegoats. It solidified me as a majority member of the Lomands and made me trustworthy to everyone on the tribe besides you two. How did Jim perceive me? He thought I came scurrying to him just like *that*. He tried to go behind my back not once but twice thinking I wouldn't 1: hear about it and 2: be able to counter his plans. He tried to work behind me and save Joe, didn't work. The next vote he's honestly expecting me to throw a random vote on Abi/So while they blindside me. I'm well aware people are upset with me for the lies I've told, it's expected and I own up to all of them. The lies are what it took to advance me in the game. What I am currently fighting and trying to make sense of is the notion that I was a cruel, rude, and dick-ish player that mocked each player on their way out of the game. The moment in the group chat that has been referred to has been promptly proven to be taken out of context and probably got the ball rolling on the "Aras is an ass hole bandwagon." Past that people have mentioned how I talked to Parvati once she contacted me from RI when I flipped. I can link you that exact conversation. Parvati can verify that nothing has been omitted. There should be 4 images uploaded here imgur.com/VQCXK4W,LpTlPwH,tmzc6hE,0FslE5w#0 I have no issue with how I handled the situation above, Parvati was trying to game from RI which is clearly not within the rules. I told her to stop what she's doing or I'd have no problem telling the hosts and getting that kinda stuff to stop. During which time I was not respectfully criticized for my game but rather just called a moron and an idiot. If someone is offended with the way I handled this then please say so. Hopefully that can shed some light on whatever people think I did or said to Parvati.
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Post by Diggy Diesel J Jim Bomb Lynch on Jun 2, 2015 5:03:22 GMT
How did Jim perceive me? He thought I came scurrying to him just like *that*. He tried to go behind my back not once but twice thinking I wouldn't 1: hear about it and 2: be able to counter his plans. He tried to work behind me and save Joe, didn't work. The next vote he's honestly expecting me to throw a random vote on Abi/So while they blindside me. Hold up, I didn't want to correct what you'd been saying, but this is getting increasingly delusional. You've all but thrown away my vote with this growing notion that I'd been constantly scheming against you. 1. I did not think you came scurrying to me like that, I knew about your deal with Katie from Katie and I assumed you'd stick with her. This wasn't a "Aras is an idiot who will buy into all my plans" it was a "Thank you Katie for being a goddess and saving my pasty ass". 2. Liz tried to save Joe, and I agreed to go along with it because I was dealing with IRL shit and didn't put in enough effort to convince her to vote Joe. I switched and voted Joe out because I thought it wasn't a good idea and I wasn't going to rocks for Joe. (Sorry Joe) 3. I wasn't "honestly expecting" you to throw a "random vote on Abi/So". YOU told ME to vote for So that round, and I did lock in a So vote at first. I was expecting to go home, and even said so to Liz, due to my lack of activity plus that stupid Joe vote. Laura confirmed I'd be going home and told me to vote Katie, so I did. My vote that round said So but was crossed out and replaced with Katie, and the Jon Lovitz as the devil was So's banner image on Sucks. I wasn't even voting for you and wasn't banking on a blindside. I was barely active after the Natalie boot, and checked AIM only once a day for minimal periods of time and just went along with whatever you guys said. You said vote Woo, Liz said vote Abi, Laura said vote Katie, so that's what I did. I didn't have the time or the effort to actually play because of the shit going on in my real life. You're strategic game might've been the best, but you had no awareness into what I was actually doing or thinking.
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Post by Abi-Maria Gomes on Jun 2, 2015 5:17:58 GMT
First off I would like to say again I am so sorry for what happened but You were winning the game 100% if you made it to the end. It was just a game move. 1. When did you decide to turn on me? Honestly I didnt turn on you until final 4 when i started to realize that I would not win standing next to you. That is the ONLY reason why I voted you. 2. Tell me of a move you made that you were solely responsible for (if you have one)? Getting the voted to get Joe Out instead of myself. I talked to Katie and Aras about doing it and made it so that It would force a tie. You had a part in it to but I would like to think that was mostly me who went to katie and Aras. 3. Compare yourself to a character of the Bible. If your answer isn't Judas you lose my vote (in this analogy I'm supposed to be Jesus Christ btw). Imma say Judas! But I do love you So <3 Just know that you were someone who kept me sane through this whole game.
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Post by Aras Baskauskas on Jun 2, 2015 5:20:00 GMT
Oh ok that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up. My account of that vote was based off the fact that you told them that I'd be gone at F7. And I knew Joe had connections with you guys. So when you told me it was all Liz I just assumed that was to save your own image and cut your losses.
So when we got to F7 I viewed it as a safe bet you'd try the same thing and send me home 3 me-2 for someone-1 So while I was in the dark.
Glad you cleared that up, I was admittedly talking based purely on speculation and perception. Clearly my perception or your perception was wrong lol. It's per(in)ception
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Post by Diggy Diesel J Jim Bomb Lynch on Jun 2, 2015 5:21:43 GMT
Oh ok that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up. My account of that vote was based off the fact that you told them that I'd be gone at F7. And I knew Joe had connections with you guys. So when you told me it was all Liz I just assumed that was to save your own image and cut your losses. So when we got to F7 I viewed it as a safe bet you'd try the same thing and send me home 3 me-2 for someone-1 So while I was in the dark. Glad you cleared that up, I was admittedly talking based purely on speculation and perception. Clearly my perception or your perception was wrong lol. It's per(in)ception We fam again bruh
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Post by kt on Jun 2, 2015 5:25:32 GMT
2. Tell me of a move you made that you were solely responsible for (if you have one)? Getting the voted to get Joe Out instead of myself. I talked to Katie and Aras about doing it and made it so that It would force a tie. You had a part in it to but I would like to think that was mostly me who went to katie and Aras. this isn't true sadly. Aras & I always planned to keep you over Joe and your input had verrrry little to do with it
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Post by Aras Baskauskas on Jun 2, 2015 5:33:12 GMT
Oh ok that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up. My account of that vote was based off the fact that you told them that I'd be gone at F7. And I knew Joe had connections with you guys. So when you told me it was all Liz I just assumed that was to save your own image and cut your losses. So when we got to F7 I viewed it as a safe bet you'd try the same thing and send me home 3 me-2 for someone-1 So while I was in the dark. Glad you cleared that up, I was admittedly talking based purely on speculation and perception. Clearly my perception or your perception was wrong lol. It's per(in)ception We fam again bruh It was the play on words wasn't it ?
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Post by So Kim on Jun 2, 2015 10:47:19 GMT
Ok Abi, you're forgiven. I'm trying not to be an old bitter bitch. But still, that doesn't mean that you're getting my vote. I'm voting for whoever I think played the best game out of the three of you.
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Post by Abi-Maria Gomes on Jun 2, 2015 18:54:09 GMT
I respect that So I just wanted you to know i genuinely like Love you so much now <3 Whatever happens happen!
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